Wild Animal Incidents...

topic posted Sat, March 1, 2008 - 5:18 PM by  Joy
Hi all...I was reading earlier today about the different animals that live in Arizona. Apparently 13 species of rattlesnakes, coyotes, bobcats, mountain lions, javelinas, etc....The website was a guide on things not to do such as feeding the wild, leaving children and animals unattended, water out, or gardens near your home due to the animals or creatures. I was wondering how common it was to encounter these critters or beasts living in the urban community. Has anyone had any experience with this or known anyone who has? Is it common to take these precautions? How serious is it?
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    Sat, March 1, 2008 - 6:06 PM
    I saw a coyote last weekend when mountain biking.
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      Sat, March 1, 2008 - 10:18 PM
      I was taking a walk on the Rillito two weeks ago and I saw two roadrunners and 7 coyotes. I love seeing wildlife on walks in the middle of town. Well, in safe places like the Rillito, I mean, not on the streets. Although I have seen many coyotes crossing busy streets. I am always amazed I don't see more dead coyotes on the side of the road.
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        Mon, March 3, 2008 - 5:36 AM
        It depends on where you live. The closer to the more rural areas the bigger chance to see some backyard wildlife. We have a pack of coyotes in our neighborhood, they come through the yard everynight. They don't bother our horses, but I wouldnt leave a dog or cat outside. We also have a bobcat who naps in our big mesquite tree and a small group of Javalinas who visit on a regular basis. Rattlesnakes won't bother you if you don't bother them. The humane society has a program to snake proof dogs, which is a pretty good Idea. Pack rats are the most dangereous creature here as they love to get under the hood of cars and eat all the wiring.....they are very cute, but destructive.
        Feeding wild critters is a no no, even bird feeders are not a great idea in some areas, as the spilled food will bring pack rats that attract snakes. Not a problem if you don't mind snakes, the pack rats will cause problems.
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          Mon, March 3, 2008 - 2:03 PM
          I have lived both in the city and on the outskirts, in town I have only ever seen an occasional coyote (which are almost always terrified of humans) out on the edge of town with tons of desert near me we saw everything it was great.
          Do not fear a rattlesnake coming after you in town, even out of town they need to be coiled to strike and while I have seen tons of them, even had them rattle I have never personally seen one strike a human. I do know several people who have been bitten, none of them were in town and a couple of them did dumb things leading up to being bitten. They are however a HUGE hazard to pets if you live on the outskirts or in the desert, coyotes will eat your dogs and cats as will mountain lions, and snakes like dogs too!
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            Mon, March 3, 2008 - 3:17 PM
            Joy,
            I had similar concerns before I moved here. :) I mean, it sounds pretty freaky and unnerving to have so many species of poisonous spiders, lizards and snakes, plus scoprions and coyotes and javelinas. People were telling me horrifying stories of paralysis through scorpion stings and cats being carried off by coyotes, as if these things happened daily. What I learned once I moved here is that those people were idiots. ;)

            if you're in an urban area these things are like, little to no concern. If you are hiking you should be cautious, particularly at night. But that's just a matter of awareness, not real danger in most cases.

            You might see an occasional coyote skulking around the edges of a road at night, but that's maybe once or twice a year. And you're in your car so your biggest concern is not hitting them if they dart in the road. ;)
            You're not likely to encounter snakes unless you're hiking. And even then local authorities commonly state that the vast majority of snake bites are from people doing stupid things, like poking a rattlesnake with a stick to see what it would do, or trying to pick one up.

            Spider bites are reported to usually happen when you intentionally or accidentally agitate them, such as by sticking your hand right at them in a crevice. Most of them like to hide in dark corners and cubbies, places that aren't easy to see or reach. Again, this isn't as much a worry in urban areas. The advice here is to simply look before you put your hand under a sofa, bookcase, or dark crevice. In other words: if you can't see it, don't reach there.

            Scorpions don't really appear in the urban areas, but I've been told that they are quite small and are only a health hazard to very small children, the elderly, and those with serious health issues. For most people the sting is unpleasant but by no means lethal. I've never seen one here, but I'm still in the habit of shaking my shoes before I put them on.

            now, if you live a more rural area or near the foothills it is more common for you to encounter these things. People in those areas have said it's best to keep small pets indoors at night to avoid snakes and coyotes. And they'll take measures to prevent spiders and scorpions from entering gaps in the windows and doors.

            However, if you're anywhere in the central city of Tucson it's very rare you'll encounter any of those threats. And I think you mentioned not having a car in an earlier thread, so you'll definitely need to be in the central area. Honestly, my biggest problem has been pigeons, occasional cockroaches and far too many moths. Mostly moths. Huge creepy pupae-making moth problem in my complex. But apparently that's rare as well because no one else I've asked has that problem.
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              Mon, March 3, 2008 - 7:47 PM
              Joy,
              Worry not over wild animals. Do worry about wild humans. They are much more dangerous. Yes, spiders bite, so do scorpions. I live in Tucson for over thirty years and was never bitten once. since I moved out into the country the scorpions have gotten me a few times. Dang the smart! Just the price I pay for living in paradise. The payoff came this morning when I turned a corner and found two desert bighorn sheep standing in the road forty feet away. They were so beautiful! I got some great photos. I will post them later.

              Don't try to feed the neighborhood javalins and you will be just fine. But do watch out for those wild humans. I am assuming you are an experienced urban dweller and you probably already know this. If you move to Tucson you will eventually, unless you don't leave the city, learn to appreciate and love the wild things that call the desert home. They are wonderful, magical even. Enjoy them any chance you get. Just treat them with respect and they will return the favor.
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    Mon, March 3, 2008 - 10:11 PM
    coyotes are common any place sorta... I have actually seen Javalina in town once crossing broadway.. that was weird.
    If your in town you will not see animals unless you go to the zoo. You might run into a snake you might see a scrawny pathetic coyote but rare at best...
    However those in the outskirts of town any place close to the mountains or undeveloped areas see alot more.
    I grew up in a neighbor hood where yes I saw a mountain lion once or twice and a few bob cats, Javalina in packs often (once in our garage) coyotes all the time like 4 times a week easy, plus tons of bunnys and tortises and snakes yes even rattlers, lots of scorpions and birds by the droves. However in 36 years I have seen only one Gilla Monster.
    These rules are important if you go hiking in desert areas or live in a more open less populated area... but if your living in town, you will have to work to even see real desert... its about as wild and animal populated as down town LA.
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      Wed, March 5, 2008 - 7:34 PM
      The Sonoran desert is an incredibly biodiverse region, ranking just behind the Amazon rain forest in numbers of species.That's a good thing! And having all these critters around is really a treat. You have to act like a grownup and learn to understand these creatures and how to live with them, but that comes with its own rewards. As another poster said, animals pose much less of a threat than some of your fellow humans. Wildlife encounters are common not just in the Tucson outskirts, but throughout the Western United States, where suburbs butt up against still-wild areas.
      There is no reason to fear these creatures. Respect them, learn about them, enjoy their presence. Hearing coyotes howling in the night, or seeing a family of javalinas trot across the road is a thrill few people get to experience.
      And if you're more comfortable listening to car alarms than yipping and howling, get yourself a place in town. Tucson's great that way.
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        Mon, March 17, 2008 - 3:04 PM
        I was an air force brat that moved around a lot. I have never lived anywhere else that has what we have here. There are places that are rural and urban here, it is great!

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